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[#57185]
Written by: jamie2006 [21/09/2007, 20:02] |
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this is old news but, i really hope this doesn't get pulled, i'd love to see if it does well or not and if it's as good at the uk version. |
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[#57204]
Written by: PsYcO [21/09/2007, 22:29] |
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didn't cbs get there first? the big bang theory's cast closely match's that of the it crowd, imo |
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[#57226]
Written by: MrMacMan [22/09/2007, 02:18] |
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[#57246]
Written by: vexxxboy [22/09/2007, 04:39] |
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after i read that they are trying to redo kath and kim, i have come to the conclusion that there is no hope for comedy on us tv. and you have to watch the show to understand why. |
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[#57247]
Written by: pathomancer [22/09/2007, 05:04] |
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ben silverman can't be shown the exit fast enuff. he represents all that is wrong in hollywood today. there is no excuse for promoting a culture of derivative work at the expense of original material. the constant remaking of "proven formula" is creating an irreversible stagnation in tv programming driving away viewers and making it increasingly difficult to make a good show or keep it on long enuff to get a following. ben silverman must go! |
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[#57254]
Written by: jordie [22/09/2007, 05:40] |
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how the hell could they reformat 'kath & kim'? the whole thing is an 'in-joke' for aussies, americans just can't understand it (not picking on you here, same goes for all non-aussies/kiwis). we're making fun of ourselves in it, it won't make sense to people who don't know anything about aussie culture. i really don't know how they would make an american verison of it. |
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[#57257]
Written by: woodmaeng [22/09/2007, 05:53] |
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i agree. i was almost insulted when i heard they were going to make a us version of a great british comedy. you either like it enough to watch the original, or you leave it alone. you dont go "oh, thats a cool idea, but it would be good if it was american". if you cant take the british humour, then leave it. seriously, america, youve got a pretty good line up of shows as it is. a lot of the great stuff comes out of the us. do your own comedy if you want, but dont use other countries hard work and push it off as your own. everyone knows how it works. you copy. if it goes well, you take the credit, which i bet the original creators dont get recognition for, and if it flops, you turn around and say "well, it was based on a british comedy". as for kath and kim. i think i almost spat out my coke! jordie sums it up perfectly. how you can american-ise an australian show like this... its seriously unthinkable. a show that is funny coz its based on australian stereotypes will be lost if you try to map it to america. you just dont have the matching stereotypes needed. besides, the first ep of the new season captured over 10% of the australian audience. and now you want to insult that by saying "thats not good enough, we'll make our own version and do better." afterall, thats the reason you do take other people's ideas and run your own version? sorry for the rant... |
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[#57263]
Written by: Jerry Cola [22/09/2007, 06:35] |
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why would it matter that nbc is cutting it? it's the exact same show and channel 4 is still showing it here in the uk. all the torrents of the show are from over here. |
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[#57319]
Written by: rogerbix [22/09/2007, 12:54] |
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for people who keep demanding that they show the original british shows, we'd he happy to do that if they'd make more than 6 bloody episodes a year. typical us sitcoms have upwards of 20 episodes per season. lazy brits... hahaha  (fwiw, i think the it crowd is one of the funniest shows on television anywhere on the planet... i just wish there were more episodes per series than they seem to be content with creating.) |
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[#57320]
Written by: rogerbix [22/09/2007, 12:59] |
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oh, and if you think the us is bad about copying sitcoms, read up on how russia is doing the same thing with our shows: http://video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=fc144fc6c26ff1eb8fac317d3ef654771c9f0999  http://www.tvsquad.com/2007/09/16/thats-married-with-children-in-russian/ |
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[#57321]
Written by: rogerbix [22/09/2007, 13:01] |
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oops... links didn't work: www.tvsquad.com/2007/09/16/thats-married-with-children-in-russian/ video.on.nytimes.com/?fr_story=fc144fc6c26ff1eb8fac317d3ef654771c9f0999 |
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[#57330]
Written by: remisser [22/09/2007, 15:33] |
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this is nothing new. three's company was a british show... sanford and son was a british show... hell, i think all in the family was better than the british counterpart. more recently they did a good job with the office. that said... quoting jordie: "how the hell could they reformat 'kath & kim'? the whole thing is an 'in-joke' for aussies, americans just can't understand it (not picking on you here, same goes for all non-aussies/kiwis). we're making fun of ourselves in it, it won't make sense to people who don't know anything about aussie culture. i really don't know how they would make an american verison of it." it's simple, you make an american version making "in-jokes" for americans and american culture. just get someone who is familiar with aussie and american culture and have them work on the show. it's that simple. woodenmaeng said: "how you can american-ise an australian show like this... its seriously unthinkable. a show that is funny coz its based on australian stereotypes will be lost if you try to map it to america. you just dont have the matching stereotypes needed." to which i respond: there are many shows that have been americanized quite successfully when people thought it impossible. just look at the differences between sanford and son and steptoe and son. wikipedia can tell you all about it. woodenmaeng also said: "seriously, america, youve got a pretty good line up of shows as it is. a lot of the great stuff comes out of the us. do your own comedy if you want, but dont use other countries hard work and push it off as your own. everyone knows how it works. you copy. if it goes well, you take the credit, which i bet the original creators dont get recognition for, and if it flops, you turn around and say "well, it was based on a british comedy"." wow, that's pigheaded to say. waaa our shows are sacred. seriously, other countries "copy" stuff we do (example, take a look at how many countries have a version of "married... with children) and we don't have a problem with them taking it. you other countries get so offended when we try to make our own version of something. it should be considered a compliment. i consider this "leave our shows to us" attitude as being offensive. it's not like it'll hurt you. stop having such xenophobia about americanization. and please, woodenmaeng, point me to some links about executives blaming something on being based on british comedy as to why it failed. i'll prove one of your points wrong on the flip side: in january 2004, the office won the golden globe award for "best television series: musical or comedy", beating nominees arrested development, monk, sex and the city and will & grace. so we gave credit to a truly great british comedy. before we "americanized" it. |
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[#57357]
Written by: PsYcO [22/09/2007, 19:38] |
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personally, i think the second season is far poorer than the first. there's a strange feeling about it. i love the show, but i wished they didn't re-new it |
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[#57424]
Written by: [23/09/2007, 06:39] |
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*opens mouth then shuts it and simply points to comment above* can't put it in a more articulate manner than dmfaust. |
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[#57456]
Written by: kradical [23/09/2007, 14:03] |
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