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[#83510] Written by: VikkMathis [10/03/2008, 14:40]
i like the show (terminator) my friends and i get together when this show
comes on and watch it as if we're glued to the television. the last scene
where the car blows up left us hanging and begging for more. this show better
not get cancel or i'm going to be pissed. i'll never watch any show on fox
again even if it's good. they did the same thing with "drive" which was
another favorite of mine.
[#83530] Written by: bbcgrrrl [10/03/2008, 19:17]
as a rule, i don't watch fox. i made an exception as i really enjoyed headey's
performances in the films "aberdeen" and "loved up". i've been impressed more by
the heart of this show than the special effects.

if you want to help, there's a petition:
{www[dot]petitiononline[dot]com/scconfox/petition[dot]html}


cheers!
bbcgrrrl
[#83535] Written by: danno49 [10/03/2008, 20:01]
this shows only redeeming quality is the decent acting. the writing is
absolutely horrific. the directing is sub par, but i guess it could be the shit
scripts they have to work with.

what the fuck was up with the season (and hopefully series) finale? the big
'shootout' with cromartie consisted of men being thrown into the pool with some
red food coloring added for a blood effect. utter tripe and just did not have
the desired artsy-fartsy factor i'm sure the director was looking for.

i only watched the whole season because i thought it was suffering from the
identity crisis that most shows go through in the early episodes. i am holding
out hope for the show but if they don't get some excellent writers producing
fantastic scripts, i will just pretend the show never happened like t3. the
first two were so bad-ass. yes, they had some problems, but not near the amount
that t:scc has. let's not even mention t3. oh shit, i just did.

note to vajna and kassar: if you get the green for a 2nd go around please don't
fuck it up.
[#83538] Written by: The5thHorseman [10/03/2008, 20:45]
they better not cancel it, i've just gotten into it. i must agree with the exec
that from what i've seen about the ratings and from the incredible cgi (for a tv
show) that they probably aren't getting as much money as they want.
[#83540] Written by: biglee [10/03/2008, 21:09]
i'm still pissed about losing drive, if they get rid of ttscc then i want to
know what their demographic is. is it insecure people who enjoy watching the
weak succumb to the strong in a shameful modern twist on gladiatorial combat aka
reality telly. give me some good escapism with a great story any day of the week.
[#83564] Written by: griffmiester [11/03/2008, 00:09]
if t:scc get's canned, i'll have to put it down to fox and the firefly curse. it seems that any show that fox
screens and has actors that were in firefly seems to get canned early.

i mean wake up fox and ask the viewers whether they want to see more. what do big-wig exec's know
anyway...
[#83586] Written by: dafix1972 [11/03/2008, 04:53]
terminator is summit i could quite happily do without, its ok, maybe good at
points but as stated before its loose contridicting and every episode is
almost plotless (apart from the \'save the jon save the world\' tags...

i still miss firefly (altho theres a bit of a stdvd season 2 stir online) dead
like me (again its sort of back with pushing daisies, as characters in daisies
were intended to be in dlm\'s 3rd season), i really miss surface, as they had
only just touched the start of the whole story (perhaps that was the downfall
as they took too long introducing and exploring all the plots - shame), i even
miss huff, and wasnt impressed with the journeyman at first as i thought what
a \'quantum leap\' ripoff, but as it went on with his interference of the past
affecting his future i really got into it, and its somewhere where ql never
went.

but luckily family guy came back, and futurama is sort of back, and god help
fox and other networks if they cancel, house, boston legal, numb3rs, psych(i
think psych is one of the best things to come from usa ever.) lost(altho
getting a bit drawn out now - but i still wanna see the monster )
heroes and eureka... as long as they run until completion, im a very happy
bunny!!!
[#83592] Written by: Jedit [11/03/2008, 05:24]
Quote by griffmiester
if t:scc get's canned, i'll have to put it down to fox and
the firefly curse.


what "firefly curse"? try the "it's genre and it's on fox" curse. wonderfalls,
tru calling, space: above and beyond, the visitor, harsh realm, journeyman,
failfly, futurama...

[#83628] Written by: landaishan [11/03/2008, 09:51]
lets just hope and pray it stays on!

and yep, the last episode was a cliffhanger
[#83646] Written by: Blackstar [11/03/2008, 11:06]
actually i think you will find its a curse passed on from joss whedon, i know
people who would cheerily have put a spell on him and all his minions after
the end of btvs s6.
i've enjoyed tscc and hope it comes back but hey, it is only a tv show.
[#83652] Written by: agathorn [11/03/2008, 11:36]
i'll be upset if terminator is canceled, but won't be one bit surprised. fox
has a long standing history with this exact pattern, and it really pisses me off.

firefly & john doe are two that really pissed me off, especially with the john
doe cliffhanger. those who say terminator is safe because fox wouldn't leave it
on a cliffhanger don't know fox's history very well.
[#83715] Written by: Eladrien [11/03/2008, 22:01]
yep... fox sucks... its that easy... hopefully terminator gets picked up by
another network... cause they have to continue the show... since they destroyed
the continuity by having them come to the future so in the words of the great
ricky ricardo... they have a lot of splainin to do
[#83982] Written by: 90014 [15/03/2008, 06:31]
space: above and beyond was above and beyond anything we will ever see again on
tv in this day and age.

'space' was written long before 9/11 and dealt intimately with life 'under
fire', in a tight knit group, fighting enemy forces. all of these conditions
were allowed because we (audience) had little real world comparisons to make at
the time. now with 'world war 3' at hand (war on terrorism) we will never see a
'realistic' approach to warfare and it's moral effects on a squad of kids.
also, despite all reports to the contrary, space: above and beyond was an
australian production that happened ($) to be on american tv. and like all
sci-fi that comes from other parts of the world once it found american dollars
it's stories, ie 'meaning', dried up quicker than a strike dries up creativity.

searching for meaning in american sci-fi television shows is a joke and will
continue to be, ad nauseam, till we grow beyond the emotionally deficient star
trek based sci-fi this country can not get past. specifically, american
television lacks 'love'.

take america's current #1 sci-fi show bsg (2003), where the over all story arc
is the fight to exist. in a euro based terminator the arch would be the right
to survive, the meaning of existance and what roll love plays in the struggle to
be alive.

lexx, farscape, space: above and beyond and others can not and do not survive
american money.

terminator, journyman, sgx, flash gordon, bionic woman, moonlight, jerico, the
latest (and last) seasons of '4400 and dead zone', and others have little to
zero 'meaning'. they are episodic adventures in a vacuum of purpose. we should
and do hold shows like these to a lower, and shorter, standard of sci-fi and
drama.

in closing, boston legal (which i reference do to the title of the orginal
article for this discussion topic) has lasted as long as it has, in a day
shifting and lonely 10pm existance because it does deal with meaning in life.
they have 'platonic homosexual love' and 'physical displays of affection and
commitment' conflicts in every episode. compelling tv. quite unlike the short
lived and meaningless, sci-fi dramas of contemporary american television.

ty for reading
[#83995] Written by: quasipseudopizzaoid [15/03/2008, 11:09]
Quote by 90014

'space' was written long before 9/11 and dealt intimately with life 'under
fire', in a tight knit group, fighting enemy forces. all of these conditions
were allowed because we (audience) had little real world comparisons to make at
the time. now with 'world war 3' at hand (war on terrorism) we will never see a
'realistic' approach to warfare and it's moral effects on a squad of kids.
also, despite all reports to the contrary, space: above and beyond was an
australian production that happened ($) to be on american tv. and like all
sci-fi that comes from other parts of the world once it found american dollars
it's stories, ie 'meaning', dried up quicker than a strike dries up creativity.


yup, those yanks screwed up a great series!
what makes a show an australian production? the set is there and the filming is
done there?

hmmm. s:aab:

co-creator glen morgan - born in el cajon, california, usa - imdb
co-creator james wong - born in hong kong, moved to the united states with his
family at age 10 to san diego, california - wiki

regular cast:
morgan weisser - born in venice, california, usa - imdb
kristen cloke - born in van nuys, california, usa - imdb
rodney rowland - born in newport beach, california, usa - imdb
lanei chapman - is an american actress - wiki
joel de la fuente - born in new hartford, new york, usa - imdb
james morrison - born in bountiful, utah, usa - imdb

directors:
thomas j. wright (6 episodes) - is an american television director - wiki
charles martin smith (3 episodes) - born in van nuys, california, usa - imdb
...

co-creator glen morgan on why 2063 was chosen as the time:
"we had compromised on 2063 because it was the century anniversary of kennedy's
death, which a lot of people would say was the death of innocence in america."
- http://www.cyberpursuits.com/heckifiknow/saab/staff.asp

doh!

//edit:
"according to the producers, the main fictional work that influenced space:
above and beyond was the 1974 science fiction novel the forever war by joe
haldeman (an american science fiction author)" - wiki

doh! x2
[#84004] Written by: Blackstar [15/03/2008, 13:06]
Quote by 90014
space: above and beyond was above and beyond anything we will
ever see again on
tv in this day and age.

'space' was written long before 9/11 and dealt intimately with life 'under
fire', in a tight knit group, fighting enemy forces. all of these conditions
were allowed because we (audience) had little real world comparisons to make at
the time. now with 'world war 3' at hand (war on terrorism) we will never see a
'realistic' approach to warfare and it's moral effects on a squad of kids.
also, despite all reports to the contrary, space: above and beyond was an
australian production that happened ($) to be on american tv. and like all
sci-fi that comes from other parts of the world once it found american dollars
it's stories, ie 'meaning', dried up quicker than a strike dries up creativity.

searching for meaning in american sci-fi television shows is a joke and will
continue to be, ad nauseam, till we grow beyond the emotionally deficient star
trek based sci-fi this country can not get past. specifically, american
television lacks 'love'.

take america's current #1 sci-fi show bsg (2003), where the over all story arc
is the fight to exist. in a euro based terminator the arch would be the right
to survive, the meaning of existance and what roll love plays in the struggle
to
be alive.

lexx, farscape, space: above and beyond and others can not and do not survive
american money.

terminator, journyman, sgx, flash gordon, bionic woman, moonlight, jerico, the
latest (and last) seasons of '4400 and dead zone', and others have little to
zero 'meaning'. they are episodic adventures in a vacuum of purpose. we should
and do hold shows like these to a lower, and shorter, standard of sci-fi and
drama.

in closing, boston legal (which i reference do to the title of the orginal
article for this discussion topic) has lasted as long as it has, in a day
shifting and lonely 10pm existance because it does deal with meaning in life.
they have 'platonic homosexual love' and 'physical displays of affection and
commitment' conflicts in every episode. compelling tv. quite unlike the short
lived and meaningless, sci-fi dramas of contemporary american television.

ty for reading

i've always wanted to string up the critic who called saab 'melrose space'
before it was even on the air. i felt that put off serious sf fans and
attracted viewers who were expecting something far different from the dark
series we got. i also think saab went a little too dark trying to fight that
tag.
maybe it was also just not the right time for a show like this, bsg pursued
many of the same ideas and found a much more receptive audience in the post
9/11 world.


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